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  • Hi Matt.

    For some reason my old accout was screwed for some reason. So I changed it.

    By the way Season 3 was way better than Seasons 1 & 2.

    It wasn't drawn out and no romance bullcrap ! 



    This season cut to the chase such as the kills, chase scenes and Ghostface's threatening phone calls

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      No problem. My issue is that we never got any answers what would happen in S3 before Reboot. They could says something.



      1. Why was Manny killed?



      2. Why was Amir killed? Beth said he broke the rules. She meant by having a sex with her?



      Matthew

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    • And the Killers killing Hypocrites, aren't they themselves hypocrites?

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  • Hi Matt.  Did you you saw the Season finale last night?



    What do you think of Beth and Jamal as the killer?

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      Well, one thing I must admit, is that this Season gave us at least one thing we always wanted. They show us flashback to who killed who. This is something Scream never did before. Piper never directly confessed to whom she killed, neither Kieran. Now we don't even know who killed Kieran and why. This is something they should have done long time ago.

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  • Hey Matthew,

    Can you please help me with something?  I created a HSM Wiki last year and I want it to be kind of like a Final Destination 5 prequel except with all the Death and stuff...  I don't really know HOW to explain it...  Can you please just check it out?



    https://my-high-school-musical.fandom.com/wiki/Troy_Bolton

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  • Hi Matt,

    I am so sorry for the way I responded to you earlier. I was annoyed at a situation that I was facing and I took my anger out on you. I know my actions were definitely not warranted and I hope that we can come to a friendly resolution in the future. All the best!  

    Elaina

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    • Hi Matt,

      I hope so but if the third season doesn't answer any of the lingering questions about the identities of the Third Killer as well as the '94 Killer, I won't hold any grudges. Since, the new season is a total reboot of the entire television series, it wouldn't surprise me if the writers decide against wrapping up the plot holes of the last two seasons. I hope that answers your above question. All the best!

      Elaina

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    • I see, but if not why not release some book or a newspaper prop? I'm personally afraid that They won't say anything to Third Killer or 94 Killer in S3. I'd be very surprised if They did. If we of course will ever get S3.

      BTW: Could there be some policy that would say to users to post comment only when They discover a new information from some interview or so? Honestly it is annoying as same users posts all these repeating upset/complaining comments without anything new.

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  • 2. True. Most killers were more brutal than Mickey. He was more brutal than Masterface though. Not sure about the pre-retcon Audrey. I had reasons to believe if she was the killer, she would be more brutal than him.

    3. Do you consider doing "behind the mask" blog, which give deeper insights about every canon killer in the franchise? If you do, will it be like a "pros/cons" list or in your personal style?

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    • 1. I hear you on this one. I have a busy time of my own. College and such. Take youre time. From the little you read, what do you think about the episode? Did you liked it as the first one?

      2. I see how Audrey isnt the same in both seasons, but Piper? She died at the end of season 1. How can she be in season 2? With that said, i like your idea better than the canon series. Kieran would avenge Piper either way. Retconing him into the hidden 2nd killer of season 1 was unnecessary at best.

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    • 1. I'll have to check again to be able answer.

      2. Piper from S2 perspective had different age and height and was killing with Kieran. Not Audrey. And she still appeared in flashbacks and body was seen.

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  • What makes you think that Billy killed Steve?

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  • Mrs. Loomis killed Phil because her eyes were seen through the mask, and she's the only one in the movie that was able to make her knife go through the wall.

    Mickey was talking to Cici while Mrs. Lommis snuck in and killed her, beacuse Mickey knows Cici more then Lommis does. 

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    • It's not official and I already changed it as I was asked. I undertand and respect that you may have different opinion but Please note that you don't have any official proof and we're going to keep it this way.

      All the Best!

      Matthew

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    • It is official and it's always gonna be like that. I understand that your giving your opinion too, but you barely gave me any of your proof to support your story, and that's a fact. Loomis killed Cici and Phill and that's that, I gave all the proof I can give to you, but you still make up these other stories. I love watching these movies, especially mystery movies. But I hate debating about it. I just want this to end. 

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  • You are looking at who killed Will as only S1. I think you have to look at it objectively and with both seasons. Although Kieran retconned Audrey, it was implied tht she was the killer. It was confirmed that Kieran was the killer. Same height as Will. Audrey is not. 

    Also, I am looking aat wht Kieran did objectively.  Kieran was practically God-tier this season. Master lock picker. Master hacker. Master crime scene cleaner/fixer. Master of sneaking, even standing on Audrey's bed to finger paint in blood while she slept in it. Master of technology. Master of being in two places at once. Like I said he was practically God-tier. For me I think Kieran is the best killer in Scream IN TERMS OF SKILL OVERALL. As for motive and such stuff, he's also high in my list, although he had a pretty generic and cliche motive.

    Anyways, what about each factor? Here are my rankings for each factor:

    Greater Kills:

    3. Mickey - The cop car scene was pretty intense.

    2. Roman - For killing solo, he pulled off some crazy kills.

    1. Kieran - Also solo, he had a higher kill count and was ruthless. Killed for a longer period of time (started in season 1).

    High Intelligence:

    3. Jill - Devised this whole plan and convinced her accomplice he would survive. Injuring herself was also quite brilliant.

    2. Kieran - Went the longest without getting caught and tortured his victims mentally and physically. Again, Kieran was a master lock picker. Master hacker. Master crime scene cleaner/fixer. Master of sneaking, even standing on Audrey's bed to finger paint in blood while she slept in it. Master of technology. Master of being in two places at once. Like I said he was practically God-tier. 

    1. Roman - Inspired kids to kill for him, take the blame, and unintentionally inspired more killings (and films) after his original plan.

    Better Motive:

    3. Mickey - Actually wanted to get caught and blamed horror movies. Far-fetched but interesting.

    2. Roman and Piper - Wanted the life they should have lived, was sick of someone else living it instead. (Jill's was similar, but Roman's and Piper's was more plausible)

    1.  (Kieran) Revenge for killing someone they loved dearly - (Debbie) Let's be real. Any sane parent would most likely kill the person who took their child's life. 

    Better Plan:

    3. Debbie - Wanted to avenge her son and have someone else to take the blame who actually wanted to.

    2. Roman - Wanted to kill his mother but inspired Billy and Stu to do it instead.

    1. Jill - Same reason as her intelligence ranking.

    The Craziness:

    3. Jill - She went the extra mile to injure herself in different ways and become the victim.

    2. Kieran - His personality shift at the end of season 2 was incredible I thought. He was a calm guy all the way to that point.

    1. Mickey - He was all around deranged. His motive for the killings was the most off-the-wall.

    More Treacherous:

    3. Billy - Billy had Stu stab him to fake his death and show he wasn't the killer but came back to play the hero and turned the table.

    2. Jill - She played her own accomplice into thinking he was going to be a victim with her. Went against her own family.

    1. Kieran - Played this relaxed, cool, caring guy all the way until he lost it and confessed everything.

    Most Menacing:

    3. Unknown Halloween Special killer - Somehow sneaked into a prison and killed an officer with brute strength. Who knows what else they could have been capable of? (I felt this killer was worthy of ranking)

    2. Roman - Killed movie stars (even by blowing up a house), a huge professional bodyguard, and others all by himself.

    1. Kieran - Killed numerous people over a long period of time without anyone suspecting it was him. He truly fooled everyone.

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    • 1. Who killed Tyler?

      2. Was one of killers in Nina's house? When he/she sends her shorts clips?

      3. They may have both did it, but Kieran choose this method.

      4. I'm sorry, I'm not better person on ranking the killers.

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    • 1. Many people think Kieran because of how he cut off Branson's hands, but, it has to be Piper. Piper killed Nina and Tyler. People think Kieran because he went to her house that day to drop her off, and potentially, have sex, but they are wrong.

      2. Kieran was recording Nina and taunting her like he does all the time, while Piper killed Tyler and Nina. Kieran's recording was shown in S2, in the theater, and Piper published the GIF.

      3. You think that the kill is Kieran's M.O?

      4. You said that Kieran had more advantages than Piper with ranking them in the 7 factors.

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