Also, Tatum said that Stu was with her at the same time Casey and Steven were murdered
I saw this movie around 1997.. i was only about 19 and it is a time capsule of a lost youth lol.. We went over lots of this stuff back then but i had to dig it out once more after seeing the film on the tv guide station last week. Heres what i have come up with over time as well as recently.. who killed who?" Casey and Steve: Both Billy and Stu were present. Stu was in costume and did all the physical killing of both.. while Billy was the voice on the phone asking trivia about horror movies in exchange for chances to survive. Billy was primarily the one obsessed with horror movies even seen standing in the horror section of the video store. Billy acted as "the brains" and gave the orders to accomplice Stu.. to place Steve on the patio (as well as cut his guts out for when the lights came on). There remains very small chance that Billy killed Casey and maybe even Steve as well ONLY because of the methods of strangling and stabbing multiple times. However simply by knowing Stu dated the victim then it is obvious just by the look on Caseys face when the mask is pulled off that someone she recognized was the killer (this was confirmed recently Kevin Williamson twitter and he wouldnt joke around) Had Casey seen Billys face ... this part wouldnt make any sense at all. So thanks KW for the confirm after all this time! Stu did have a sort of "alibi" from Tatum that is very easily explained away.. Billy and Stu both planned to go from the murder scene to their respective girlfriends houses later.. just like billy was at Sidneys house as well. I think the early changes in the typical Stu killing style probably came from Wes Craven (rip).. perhaps i read because the director felt that in order for the movie to be effective as it was.. that opening scene had to be gory and drawn out (or Stu was just extra eager to take revenge against someone).. either way Stu took the opportunity to murder Casey and Steve as reward for his part in helping kill Sidney. The two victims had been promised to him by Billy Loomis who had played on Stu's pain and weakness.. just as Roman had done to Billy prior by coaxing him into murdering Maureen by telling him SHE was the reason his family split apart ruining his life) First attack Sidney: Stu was in the costume again with Billy making the calls. The formula did not stray very much from the prior murders. Billy distracted Sidney on the phone drawing her outside to the porch.. this gave Stu a chance to hide in the house. The line about Sidney's mother also a dead give away. Billy had been prodded into killing Maureen at Romans request after she rejected Roman as her child.. Billy entered the window and by no accident dropped the phone. He was quickly arrested as the prime suspect. However as it was planned. When Stu called as Ghostface while Billy Loomis was behind bars Billy was cleared as suspect (you must remember the plan the whole time was to frame another man for the killing of Sidney and Maureen this time using her own dad) Stu was now the voice on the phone and things heated up as Billy Loomis took on the disguise to switch the roles. Bathroom Attack on Sidney: I think it was Billy in the bathroom. A distraction occurred as apparently non connected boys pulled a Ghostface costume prank in the hall (were they coaxed? i find no direct proof although are the boys not party guests later? i think so. also i picked out the symbolism and perhaps foreshadowing with the two boys in the principals office on a repeat view). The first theory about bathroom Ghostface suggests that attack on Sidney was just another random prank (if you listen to Ghostfaces voice when he falls he sounds a little diff suggesting it might have been just pranksters). However I dont buy that one. Going with the 2nd theory it was Billy. I got the impression from bathroom stall scene.. where the black robe slid down into sight near a pair of tough looking boots.. the scene is deliberately serious. Perhaps the scene was meant to be a initiation of sorts.. the very moment Billy Loomis, the main antagonist himself, stepped into the Ghostface costume for the first time in the film turned up the seriousness a notch along with the pace. However there was one small point explaining why the Ghostface in the bathroom stall had such obvious wardrobe differences from Billy and Stu. Black jeans and boots and also carrying no knife. This 3rd "sort of out of left field" theory holds that the bathroom Ghostface was neither a prank or Billy.. the "third killer" premise of Scream 1 states the bathroom Ghostface is in fact... Roman from Scream 2. The third killer premise is often sited again in later scenes where Ghostface is seen in background shots.. something neither Billy or Stu would dare try at this point as Billy was already suspect.. but ill get to that. Principal Himbrey: I say Billy. Stu is busy during this scene outside inviting people to his "party" while we get the impression Billy never left the school. With all the chaos going on theres time for Billy who has now gotten into his role full costume.. to take his first victim in the film(not counting Maureen) a warm up for laters perhaps. Himbreys dead body was used by the killers left hanging from a goal post in order to create a distraction phone call to Randy.. knowing that announcement would lure party guests away from the house just long enough to get Sidney alone. Ghostface in Store and bushes: I still say Billy. I loved these subtle touches after a few repeat views. Originally scoffed in disbelief later I felt these little scenes separate Scream 1 from more mundane stalker films. My theory.. I think after the murder of Himbry.. Billy Loomis is taking on the costumed killers persona even more fully.. braver than Stu had ever been using the Ghostface costume (along with the town reeling in chaos) to blend and meld with his own special brand of angst insanity.. that had brewed long in silence (and steeped over one blood soaked horror movie after another.) Michael Myers, Jason, Freddy.. he's got them all beat now. Thats really good. However, i think i still like to think it was the "third killer" Roman from Scream 2 personally.. and since someone mentioned Roman's theory a last time.. Ill add one "4th killer theory of Scream 1" we thought up back then.. a chance for an actual supernatural twist (ghostface is really a ghost).. something the movie teases with it seems but never falls into (thankfully). Tatums Death: Billy. After the last few events leading up I think Stu knew Billy was hiding in the garage in the shadows dressed as Ghostface and locked Tatum out of the house. This way by killing Tatum off it further isolates Sidney for the grand finale. Stu also probably couldnt have gotten out of his casual party clothes to be in and out of costume fast enough..but someone had to shut the door from inside the house. Billy gives Stu a sort of facial expression raising his eyebrows at Stu who is at the door still in a smoking jacket with guests around him as if to say "taken care of". Randy's phonecall: i think Stu had the voice change and a phone to call Randy and use the principals body to get people outta the house. He had just said he was going for another beer and would "be right back" which for me seeing it first time created a minor suspense (would he really die for saying that?).. in which the phone ring breaks and the party goers as planned file out the door for the bigger action. I couldnt imagine that being timed as "an accident" though it is never really explained. Also a call comes to Dewey that Neil Prescotts car was just found in the woods.. an obvious attempt to get more people away from the party. Both calls were probably Stu on the phone as Ghostface while Billy was upstairs getting sexual with Sidney.. a horror movie sin self referenced by Randy meta minutes before.. Stabbed Billy Loomis: well thats obvious. Who Killed Kenny?: Stu yet again.. he stood over Randy in whats become known as the "Stu Strike" pose.. two hands overhead straight down one hit at a time. Lol the fact he is so obviously clumsy had me thinking he HAD to have killed Tatum but again it might have been the director changing things to make the action better for the audience.Stu Ghostface remains until he appears in street clothes again (somehow unbruised welted or with a DROP OF BLOOD ANYWHERE ON HIM..)qith Randy holding his leg that was somehow cut open at the door (who stu left ALIVE by himself there and disappeared to look for Gale.. leave her out the somewhere ALIVE and return in the house to tell the whole plot to Sidney only to be rescued by Gale who now has a handgun aimed at them. Meanwhile Billy rolling downstairs in fake blood (he later said was 'corn syrup') this brings my kill tally: Stu: Casey, Steve, Kenny Billy: Principal Himbry, Tatumbut no need to take my word for it (though i think it makes the most sense) heres a link http://scream.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Count_(Movies)
I think Billy killed casey and Steve, the convo in the beginning when stu says "nah, I didn't kill anybody" and Billy pointedly says "nobody said YOU did" I think it was a clue that he actually never had, since Billy killed Sidney's mom, and the other two murders were cast and Steve and stu was with Tatum, so at this point stu hadn't ever killed anyone yet, I think that's why Billy said it that way.
Billy said "nobody said you did" to remove suspicion, not because Stu didnt killed them. He did. He had the motive. Yes, he usually stab once, but with Casey it was different. Sometime, when a killer have something serious againts someone, he/she might to stray off their usual M.O. Examples:
1. Jill - She usually stab once or twice, but with Trevor (who cheated on her), Charlie (she wanted to frame him as the new generation of Stu, so she stabbed him like a real survivor would've stab his/her attacker) and Sidney (she wanted to kill her cousin in the most cruel way possible) it was different.
2. Mickey - He wanted Cici to suffer, so he asked the more brutal Mrs Loomis to kill her for him. He didnt felt that way, or anything actually (with the possible exception of Derek), toward any of his 5 direct victims.
3. As a non-scream example we have Gaston (beauty and the beast) - He usually either shoot his victims or send his gang after them, but with the beast it was personal, so he wanted to stab his rival (he did stabbed the beast in the back), decapitate him and possibly even disembowel him.
Casey and Steve were both killed by Stu while Billy was on the phone. As people have stated Billy was the one who was obsessed with the horror movies so it'd make sense that he'd be quizzing the victims on horror while Stu kills them. Especially in this case since Stu had a clear motive; Casey leaving him for Steve. This also goes for the attack at Sidney's house. Stu attacked while Billy called.
Bathroom scene was probably either another prankster or Stu as he was always the more clumsy one falling down and everything (as someone previously stated). The theory of it being Roman though is very interesting and could possibly be the case. The black boots and black jeans throw me off as neither of them were wearing this if I'm remembering correctly. This is the only scene I'm iffy on. Not too sure. Could very well be any of the three. I really don't think it was Billy though.
Principal Himbray I'd say was killed by Billy as you don't see him while Stu is outside planning his party with everyone.
Tatum was definitely killed by Billy. The nod Billy gives Stu when he shows up at the door is a clear giveaway.
Kenny was definitely killed by Stu as Billy was still upstairs after being stabbed.
While Randy is on the couch watching Halloween it was Stu as well because Billy was busy playing dead. Which also means the attack on Dewey and Sidney when she's in the car was Stu as well. After that Billy finally comes down the stairs and shoots Randy.
Stu was on the phone with Casey. Ghostface said he want to know who he is looking at. Later he told to Casey, "turn on the pation light, again".
And after that, Billy made another call, keeping Casey busy and toying with her. And then Stu gutted Steve and went after Casey.
Just accured to me that in Scream 2 there was only 2 victims who got a phone call right before they die: Cici (Mickey called and Mrs Loomis killed) and Randy (Mrs Loomis of course. Called and killed).