User blog:ScreamKing93/The who killed who debate.

In the Scream franchise, there are various deaths that can be disputed as to who killed them. I thought I'd make a blog where we can always debate who killed who in a friendly way, its one of the things on this Wiki that makes me keep coming back, the difference of opinions. In this blog I will update it with disputed deaths for example CiCi's and Phil's, not to mention others like Jenny and Marnie. I will be completely unbiased despite my opinion on who killed who and I will list evidence for both parties, I guess whoever has the most evidence in their favor will be the one that killed the victim. Have I got any requests? Basically if you believe somebody to have killed another, you can state why you think so and if there is facts in there I will update this blog with those facts that support your chosen killer. Note that just because more people might believe somebody killed so and so than others, it doesn't make them right. Read the FACTS sections and then give your honest opinion and try to disprove these facts.

No hate on this blog to any users. Please don't take your opinions to extremes and don't take anything to heart its just others opinions.

Lets try and settle these disputes once and for all.

What deaths would you say are debatable throughout the saga?

Debate number 1: Tatum Riley's death.

Tatum was a very memorable character for various reasons, most notably her unique death. But just who killed her? Comment below with your beliefs of who killed Tatum, any facts or important information that proves either way, I will place into the blog.

FACTS:

-Billy showed up right after Tatum was killed.

-Stu was inside the party which left him with less time to kill Tatum

-Billy's look to Stu appears to hint that he killed Tatum

-Somebody had locked Tatum inside the garage from inside the house, Billy was not present inside the house.

-It seems Tatum never really liked Billy, Billy could have been aware of this.

-Stu may have had enough time to sneak away from the guests as they were all drinking.

-Tatum threw beer at Ghostface which would mean the killer would smell of beer. This could mean Stu is the killer as nobody mentioned Billy smelling of beer. Though not totally unusual.

-Billy could have given that look to Stu to ask if he killed Tatum, rather than looking to tell him he killed her.

-Billy wanted Sid to suffer and Tatum was her best friend which would hurt Sid more than the rest, this could support Billy.

-Tatum survived her attacker for quite some time meaning the killer would have needed some time to kill her. Billy had much more time than Stu.

-It could be debatable whether Stu was smart enough to press the garage switch when Tatum's head was in the flap door.

-Stu has no real reason, though that doesn't mean it wasn't him.

Debate number 2: Phil Stevens

Phil's death is probably the second most debated death in Scream 2.

FACTS:

-Phil was in the men's restroom, however, since most of the people in the theater were wearing 'Stab' masks, it is very possible that Debbie could have gone into the restroom and into the stall without any problems.

-After Phil's murder we see Ghostface going back to Maureen wearing Phil's jacket. This could mean that Mickey was in fact the person that killed Phil in the stall and then stole his jacket. The flip side to this argument is that Debbie could easily have killed Phil and then given Mickey the jacket to wear to kill Maureen.

-We know that the person that killed Maureen was Phil as she would have noticed if it was Debbie when she was touching Ghostface (Who she thought was Phil.)

-Debbie didn't have any real reason to kill Phil, though not entirely necessary as many victims in all movies had no real connection to the killer(s).

-If you listen carefully, when Phil puts his ear to the stall you can clearly hear a woman's voice. The voice is saying things such as "I'll tell you why I did it Mommy. Listen Mommy." which implies that Debbie is the killer here. Many have argued that the voice could have been put on by Mickey, which is possible but the killer's choice of words do not really support this theory.

-Many have speculated that one of the men at the urinal wearing 'Stab' masks is actually Mickey, clocking Phil as he goes into the stall, perhaps waiting for Debbie to kill Phil before taking his role.

-In the first movie, both killers actively took part in the slaughtering of Casey and Steve. Going by this logic (As Scream 2 is a sequel and is treated as such by the killers) it is likely that both were present. This would support Debbie being responsible for Phil's death.

-On the above point, we also know that the killer was filming the murders. When Gale and Dewey are startled by the video the killer plays, you can clearly see footage of Maureen and Phil outside of the theater. This would mean one of the killers would have to be outside during this time in order to film them. This could mean that Debbie filmed the two and never actually entered the theater, leaving Mickey to dispatch them OR it simply means that the killers filmed the two and then both entered the theater.

-If you go by the above theory then you would have to consider the time frame of how long the killer who filmed them would have had to; film them, hide the footage for later use, get inside the theater, change into their costume and STILL beat Phil into the bathroom. This could suggest that only one killer was present inside the theater, in which case, Mickey would have to be the guilty party here while Debbie filmed them entering the theater and then hid the tapes, although there is a flaw in this argument which will be in the point below this one.

-Debbie would be unlikely to know what Maureen and Phil looked like, so her alone filming them entering the theater and talking seems unlikely. Particularly as the footage of Maureen and Phil was so precise. Of course, the counter-argument here is that Mickey could have told Debbie what they look like.

Debate number 3: CiCi Cooper

Debate number 4: Jenny Randall

Debate number 5: Marnie Cooper

Debate number 6: Gale's attack (Scream 4)

Debate number 7: Sid's bathroom attack (Scream)

Work through these with me and give your views. There are reasons why all of these are listed because between here and a few other Scream sites, these are the most debated topics.